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  • Did you watch season 4 episode 23 "The Monster and the Queen"? Share your thoughts here.

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    • their date was really cute and i liked how it let us know more about Globgor and Star hinting at the fact her feeling for Marco still exist(might be just wishfull thinking from my side)

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    • One thing to say before I get to the episode I Was Right! My own Theory was correct! For some who didn't know I made a theory for at least from one of the pages that might really free Globgor from his crystal cell, The Crystal Pulverizing spell. and wouldn't you know it, she actually closely repared the book and found the page.

      Going into the episode itself, It was honestly a nice moment with Eclipsa and Globgor together. To say from the previous episodes came to what I least expected from the character. It really shows that Globgor is really a sweet guy, and admittingly Jaime Camil really did do a great performance for him. Even the song they had was really nice. Now at first it seemed to be rather confusing since it look as if she already freed him, but not apparently it took place all inside the mind. which in a way really gave out how Eclipsa knew that Star actually had the book piece. Right Now I'm already excited to see the next episode, really connect together as a cliffhanger for it.

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    • Alanoliva wrote:
      One thing to say before I get to the episode I Was Right! My own Theory was correct!

      For some who didn't know I made a theory for at least from one of the pages that might really free Globgor from his crystal cell, The Crystal Pulverizing spell. and wouldn't you know it, she actually closely repared the book and found the page.

      Going into the episode itself, It was honestly a nice moment with Eclipsa and Globgor together. To say from the previous episodes came to what I least expected from the character. It really shows that Globgor is really a sweet guy, and admittingly Jaime Camil really did do a great performance for him. Even the song they had was really nice. Now at first it seemed to be rather confusing since it look as if she already freed him, but not apparently it took place all inside the mind. which in a way really gave out how Eclipsa knew that Star actually had the book piece. Right Now I'm already excited to see the next episode, really connect together as a cliffhanger for it.

      I thought this was a flashback considering Butterfly castle being in perfect shape.

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    • No, what I actually think it was is more like a daydream. since everything looked perfect and this is something they want to be in together.

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    • Globgor is underwhelming as a character and Mewmanity has a legit reason to not like him, he claims to be vegetarian now, but that doesn't excuse the fact that he ate people in the past (that and he's constantly making jokes about eating people).

      Eclipsa is a terrible person, taking over Rhomby's body earlier in the season and now mind reading Star and committing theft. She and her little abomination aren't Queen worthy.

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    • I liked this episode! It foreshadowed some big events, and I mean big. I just love all the references to the Book of Spells, so it’s a pleasure if you’re someone who has read the book like myself.

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    • I thought this was the most romantic ep ever. Bring the romantic music vids!

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    • This was a really sweet episode. Globgor is such a nice guy. It's easy to see why Eclipsa fell for him. And him actually refusing to let himself be freed because he knows the Mewmans won't accept him was really noble.

      I didn't blame Star for calling Eclipsa out on reading her mind and stealing the last piece of the book of spells. But at least they managed to reach a compromise of sorts.

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    • I liked it.

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    • In the season 3 finale, when Star realizes how much Eclipsa has lost, she promises to "give back what her family stole from [her]" i.e. the wand and the throne. The Magic Book of Spells also belongs to Eclipsa, so Star went back on HER word and kept what was Eclipsa's rightful property from her. In a sense, Star was doing what her ancestors did and had stolen from Eclipsa. Star expects trust from Eclipsa when she doesn’t offer any herself, which is odd considering what Eclipsa did to save her and Mewni in the season 3 finale so she should have SOME trust for her. And if Star had been honest from the get go and told Eclipsa about the book piece and that she didn’t totally trust her, Eclipsa would’ve understood since she is shown to admire Star and value her opinion of her. She wouldn’t have read her mind if Star was honest.

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    • RavenHeartQuest wrote:
      In the season 3 finale, when Star realizes how much Eclipsa has lost, she promises to "give back what her family stole from [her]" i.e. the wand and the throne. The Magic Book of Spells also belongs to Eclipsa, so Star went back on HER word and kept what was Eclipsa's rightful property from her. In a sense, Star was doing what her ancestors did and had stolen from Eclipsa. Star expects trust from Eclipsa when she doesn’t offer any herself, which is odd considering what Eclipsa did to save her and Mewni in the season 3 finale so she should have SOME trust for her. And if Star had been honest from the get go and told Eclipsa about the book piece and that she didn’t totally trust her, Eclipsa would’ve understood since she is shown to admire Star and value her opinion of her. She wouldn’t have read her mind if Star was honest.

      The Spider-Bites gave Star enough reason not to completely trust Eclipsa and wait until deciding whether to give her the book or not.  And Star and her family had no idea that they were not really related to the Butterfly and besides, Eclipsa wilingly ran off with her monster husband, thus abandoning the throne and her right to rule it, as well as the wand and book.  Star did not have to give her back the throne, but she did anyway. That alone is enough reason for Eclipsa to trust her. The fact that Eclipsa has no sense of respecting anyone's privacy and snuck into Star's head and not only stole the book, but had set it up for releasing Globgor despite claiming that she's no longer gonna release him, proves that Star was right in not trusting Eclipsa, as Eclipsa's word means nothing.

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    • ShadowBeast wrote:
      RavenHeartQuest wrote:
      In the season 3 finale, when Star realizes how much Eclipsa has lost, she promises to "give back what her family stole from [her]" i.e. the wand and the throne. The Magic Book of Spells also belongs to Eclipsa, so Star went back on HER word and kept what was Eclipsa's rightful property from her. In a sense, Star was doing what her ancestors did and had stolen from Eclipsa. Star expects trust from Eclipsa when she doesn’t offer any herself, which is odd considering what Eclipsa did to save her and Mewni in the season 3 finale so she should have SOME trust for her. And if Star had been honest from the get go and told Eclipsa about the book piece and that she didn’t totally trust her, Eclipsa would’ve understood since she is shown to admire Star and value her opinion of her. She wouldn’t have read her mind if Star was honest.
      The Spider-Bites gave Star enough reason not to completely trust Eclipsa and wait until deciding whether to give her the book or not.  And Star and her family had no idea that they were not really related to the Butterfly and besides, Eclipsa wilingly ran off with her monster husband, thus abandoning the throne and her right to rule it, as well as the wand and book.  Star did not have to give her back the throne, but she did anyway. That alone is enough reason for Eclipsa to trust her. The fact that Eclipsa has no sense of respecting anyone's privacy and snuck into Star's head and not only stole the book, but had set it up for releasing Globgor despite claiming that she's no longer gonna release him, proves that Star was right in not trusting Eclipsa, as Eclipsa's word means nothing.

      Star really should have read Eclipsa's chapter (Glossaryck said she only skimmed it and read the spells), because Globgor's Mewman eating past and the circumstances of her leaving the kingdom were written in plain text. She wanted to elope with Globgor and bear his child so they could continue the royal line and "create lasting peace between the monsters and the Mewmans". That's why she was writing to "the future queens who inherit this book". Eclipsa wasn't planning on permanently leaving Mewni, so she wasn't giving up her throne, the wand, or the book. And it was Globgor who wanted her to the leave the kingdom which she had reservations about, but Globgor convinced her to "come with [him] and save both of [their] kingdoms".

      And Star has used the "All Seeing Eye", a spell specifically made to invade one's privacy, to spy on people when it's convenient for her.

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    • RavenHeartQuest wrote:

      ShadowBeast wrote:
      RavenHeartQuest wrote:
      In the season 3 finale, when Star realizes how much Eclipsa has lost, she promises to "give back what her family stole from [her]" i.e. the wand and the throne. The Magic Book of Spells also belongs to Eclipsa, so Star went back on HER word and kept what was Eclipsa's rightful property from her. In a sense, Star was doing what her ancestors did and had stolen from Eclipsa. Star expects trust from Eclipsa when she doesn’t offer any herself, which is odd considering what Eclipsa did to save her and Mewni in the season 3 finale so she should have SOME trust for her. And if Star had been honest from the get go and told Eclipsa about the book piece and that she didn’t totally trust her, Eclipsa would’ve understood since she is shown to admire Star and value her opinion of her. She wouldn’t have read her mind if Star was honest.
      The Spider-Bites gave Star enough reason not to completely trust Eclipsa and wait until deciding whether to give her the book or not.  And Star and her family had no idea that they were not really related to the Butterfly and besides, Eclipsa wilingly ran off with her monster husband, thus abandoning the throne and her right to rule it, as well as the wand and book.  Star did not have to give her back the throne, but she did anyway. That alone is enough reason for Eclipsa to trust her. The fact that Eclipsa has no sense of respecting anyone's privacy and snuck into Star's head and not only stole the book, but had set it up for releasing Globgor despite claiming that she's no longer gonna release him, proves that Star was right in not trusting Eclipsa, as Eclipsa's word means nothing.

      Star really should have read Eclipsa's chapter (Glossaryck said she only skimmed it and read the spells), because Globgor's Mewman eating past and the circumstances of her leaving the kingdom were written in plain text. She wanted to elope with Globgor and bear his child so they could continue the royal line and "create lasting peace between the monsters and the Mewmans". That's why she was writing to "the future queens who inherit this book". Eclipsa wasn't planning on permanently leaving Mewni, so she wasn't giving up her throne, the wand, or the book. And it was Globgor who wanted her to the leave the kingdom which she had reservations about, but Globgor convinced her to "come with [him] and save both of [their] kingdoms".

      And Star has used the "All Seeing Eye", a spell specifically made to invade one's privacy, to spy on people when it's convenient for her.

      Eclipsa created the All Seeing Eye spell. It’s extremely likely she used it to her advantage. Eclipsa even said she only used her spells to advantage herself.

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    • DetectiveAquamarine wrote:

      RavenHeartQuest wrote:


      ShadowBeast wrote:
      RavenHeartQuest wrote:
      In the season 3 finale, when Star realizes how much Eclipsa has lost, she promises to "give back what her family stole from [her]" i.e. the wand and the throne. The Magic Book of Spells also belongs to Eclipsa, so Star went back on HER word and kept what was Eclipsa's rightful property from her. In a sense, Star was doing what her ancestors did and had stolen from Eclipsa. Star expects trust from Eclipsa when she doesn’t offer any herself, which is odd considering what Eclipsa did to save her and Mewni in the season 3 finale so she should have SOME trust for her. And if Star had been honest from the get go and told Eclipsa about the book piece and that she didn’t totally trust her, Eclipsa would’ve understood since she is shown to admire Star and value her opinion of her. She wouldn’t have read her mind if Star was honest.
      The Spider-Bites gave Star enough reason not to completely trust Eclipsa and wait until deciding whether to give her the book or not.  And Star and her family had no idea that they were not really related to the Butterfly and besides, Eclipsa wilingly ran off with her monster husband, thus abandoning the throne and her right to rule it, as well as the wand and book.  Star did not have to give her back the throne, but she did anyway. That alone is enough reason for Eclipsa to trust her. The fact that Eclipsa has no sense of respecting anyone's privacy and snuck into Star's head and not only stole the book, but had set it up for releasing Globgor despite claiming that she's no longer gonna release him, proves that Star was right in not trusting Eclipsa, as Eclipsa's word means nothing.
      Star really should have read Eclipsa's chapter (Glossaryck said she only skimmed it and read the spells), because Globgor's Mewman eating past and the circumstances of her leaving the kingdom were written in plain text. She wanted to elope with Globgor and bear his child so they could continue the royal line and "create lasting peace between the monsters and the Mewmans". That's why she was writing to "the future queens who inherit this book". Eclipsa wasn't planning on permanently leaving Mewni, so she wasn't giving up her throne, the wand, or the book. And it was Globgor who wanted her to the leave the kingdom which she had reservations about, but Globgor convinced her to "come with [him] and save both of [their] kingdoms".

      And Star has used the "All Seeing Eye", a spell specifically made to invade one's privacy, to spy on people when it's convenient for her.

      Eclipsa created the All Seeing Eye spell. It’s extremely likely she used it to her advantage. Eclipsa even said she only used her spells to advantage herself.

      That really confused me. Eclipsa said her spells were only for herself, but the spells she used can be used for others' benefits as well (since Star uses it to spy on people and to find people as well). Wasn't that the point of the spells? So the new queens can learn them and use them for themselves? Her Darkest Spell had been created for her people as a last resort against immortal beings. The other spells don't really seem different than the spells the other queens used. And aren't Star's spells and Eclipsa's spells kinda the same? Just the former has magical girl themed attacks and the latter has gothic themed attacks. How do Star's spells benefit others? I also wish the show would explain what they define as "dark magic" since Crescenta Butterfly came up with some spells that were more sinister than Eclipsa's.

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    • RavenHeartQuest wrote:
      ShadowBeast wrote:
      RavenHeartQuest wrote:
      In the season 3 finale, when Star realizes how much Eclipsa has lost, she promises to "give back what her family stole from [her]" i.e. the wand and the throne. The Magic Book of Spells also belongs to Eclipsa, so Star went back on HER word and kept what was Eclipsa's rightful property from her. In a sense, Star was doing what her ancestors did and had stolen from Eclipsa. Star expects trust from Eclipsa when she doesn’t offer any herself, which is odd considering what Eclipsa did to save her and Mewni in the season 3 finale so she should have SOME trust for her. And if Star had been honest from the get go and told Eclipsa about the book piece and that she didn’t totally trust her, Eclipsa would’ve understood since she is shown to admire Star and value her opinion of her. She wouldn’t have read her mind if Star was honest.
      The Spider-Bites gave Star enough reason not to completely trust Eclipsa and wait until deciding whether to give her the book or not.  And Star and her family had no idea that they were not really related to the Butterfly and besides, Eclipsa wilingly ran off with her monster husband, thus abandoning the throne and her right to rule it, as well as the wand and book.  Star did not have to give her back the throne, but she did anyway. That alone is enough reason for Eclipsa to trust her. The fact that Eclipsa has no sense of respecting anyone's privacy and snuck into Star's head and not only stole the book, but had set it up for releasing Globgor despite claiming that she's no longer gonna release him, proves that Star was right in not trusting Eclipsa, as Eclipsa's word means nothing.
      Star really should have read Eclipsa's chapter (Glossaryck said she only skimmed it and read the spells), because Globgor's Mewman eating past and the circumstances of her leaving the kingdom were written in plain text. She wanted to elope with Globgor and bear his child so they could continue the royal line and "create lasting peace between the monsters and the Mewmans". That's why she was writing to "the future queens who inherit this book". Eclipsa wasn't planning on permanently leaving Mewni, so she wasn't giving up her throne, the wand, or the book. And it was Globgor who wanted her to the leave the kingdom which she had reservations about, but Globgor convinced her to "come with [him] and save both of [their] kingdoms".

      And Star has used the "All Seeing Eye", a spell specifically made to invade one's privacy, to spy on people when it's convenient for her.

      When did Glossaryck say that Star only skimmed it?  He certainly didn't say it in the magic Book of Spells. The book does not go into Globgor's Mewman eating past either. The only thing that discredits his dark past was his "assault" towards Eclipsa that Solaria witnessed, and the "plucker of limbs" nickname. And Eclipsa's chapter is not written in plain text, it's  written in cursive writing.  And Eclipsa mentioned nothing about returning to Mewni, and even if she had intended to, she would still be leaving the kingdom defenceless during a war and that would still be considered abandoning her people. And just because the Queen has a half monster baby, doesn't the Mewni people would be accepting of it. This is proven in Face the Music when Star revealed some secrets. So they wouldn't blindly follow a queen with a monster-baby, especially since they were at war with the monsters.

      We all know that Star is selfish herself, But she's only used the All Seeing Eye spell for herself once. Second time she tried to use it to find Glossaryck and the third time to find Eclipsa to bring her to the Spider-Bites.

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    • ShadowBeast wrote:
      RavenHeartQuest wrote:
      ShadowBeast wrote:
      RavenHeartQuest wrote:
      In the season 3 finale, when Star realizes how much Eclipsa has lost, she promises to "give back what her family stole from [her]" i.e. the wand and the throne. The Magic Book of Spells also belongs to Eclipsa, so Star went back on HER word and kept what was Eclipsa's rightful property from her. In a sense, Star was doing what her ancestors did and had stolen from Eclipsa. Star expects trust from Eclipsa when she doesn’t offer any herself, which is odd considering what Eclipsa did to save her and Mewni in the season 3 finale so she should have SOME trust for her. And if Star had been honest from the get go and told Eclipsa about the book piece and that she didn’t totally trust her, Eclipsa would’ve understood since she is shown to admire Star and value her opinion of her. She wouldn’t have read her mind if Star was honest.
      The Spider-Bites gave Star enough reason not to completely trust Eclipsa and wait until deciding whether to give her the book or not.  And Star and her family had no idea that they were not really related to the Butterfly and besides, Eclipsa wilingly ran off with her monster husband, thus abandoning the throne and her right to rule it, as well as the wand and book.  Star did not have to give her back the throne, but she did anyway. That alone is enough reason for Eclipsa to trust her. The fact that Eclipsa has no sense of respecting anyone's privacy and snuck into Star's head and not only stole the book, but had set it up for releasing Globgor despite claiming that she's no longer gonna release him, proves that Star was right in not trusting Eclipsa, as Eclipsa's word means nothing.
      Star really should have read Eclipsa's chapter (Glossaryck said she only skimmed it and read the spells), because Globgor's Mewman eating past and the circumstances of her leaving the kingdom were written in plain text. She wanted to elope with Globgor and bear his child so they could continue the royal line and "create lasting peace between the monsters and the Mewmans". That's why she was writing to "the future queens who inherit this book". Eclipsa wasn't planning on permanently leaving Mewni, so she wasn't giving up her throne, the wand, or the book. And it was Globgor who wanted her to the leave the kingdom which she had reservations about, but Globgor convinced her to "come with [him] and save both of [their] kingdoms".

      And Star has used the "All Seeing Eye", a spell specifically made to invade one's privacy, to spy on people when it's convenient for her.

      When did Glossaryck say that Star only skimmed it?  He certainly didn't say it in the magic Book of Spells. The book does not go into Globgor's Mewman eating past either. The only thing that discredits his dark past was his "assault" towards Eclipsa that Solaria witnessed, and the "plucker of limbs" nickname. And Eclipsa's chapter is not written in plain text, it's  written in cursive writing.  And Eclipsa mentioned nothing about returning to Mewni, and even if she had intended to, she would still be leaving the kingdom defenceless during a war and that would still be considered abandoning her people. And just because the Queen has a half monster baby, doesn't the Mewni people would be accepting of it. This is proven in Face the Music when Star revealed some secrets. So they wouldn't blindly follow a queen with a monster-baby, especially since they were at war with the monsters.

      We all know that Star is selfish herself, But she's only used the All Seeing Eye spell for herself once. Second time she tried to use it to find Glossaryck and the third time to find Eclipsa to bring her to the Spider-Bites.

      In the chapters, Glossaryck liked to pop up and give commentary and Star would as well occasionally. In Skywynne's chapter, Glossaryck said that Skywynne's chapter was the only one Star read all the way through and in Star's own chapter, she says that she skimmed the others. The only time Star made commentary on Eclipsa's chapter was when she said her spells were no big deal. When I said "plain text" I didn't mean the way it was written, I meant the details of Eclipsa's life and the circumstances of her leaving were in plain sight for everyone to see (at least for Star to see), sorry! In Eclipsa's chapter, she lists the pros and cons of various monsters she had dated. One of Globgor's cons was that he "eats people" (before he became a vegetarian).

      And yeah, you're right. Even if Eclipsa was planning to return to Mewni, she still abandoned her post to stay with a monster and her people would see that as a betrayal. But was Mewni really defenseless? Mina and the Solarian Super Soldiers were there, or do you think the queen's magic could've been of assistance?

      I remember Star using the All Seeing Eye in the beginning of season 3 to see how Marco was doing after her abrupt departure.

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    • RavenHeartQuest wrote:
      ShadowBeast wrote:
      RavenHeartQuest wrote:
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      RavenHeartQuest wrote:
      In the season 3 finale, when Star realizes how much Eclipsa has lost, she promises to "give back what her family stole from [her]" i.e. the wand and the throne. The Magic Book of Spells also belongs to Eclipsa, so Star went back on HER word and kept what was Eclipsa's rightful property from her. In a sense, Star was doing what her ancestors did and had stolen from Eclipsa. Star expects trust from Eclipsa when she doesn’t offer any herself, which is odd considering what Eclipsa did to save her and Mewni in the season 3 finale so she should have SOME trust for her. And if Star had been honest from the get go and told Eclipsa about the book piece and that she didn’t totally trust her, Eclipsa would’ve understood since she is shown to admire Star and value her opinion of her. She wouldn’t have read her mind if Star was honest.
      The Spider-Bites gave Star enough reason not to completely trust Eclipsa and wait until deciding whether to give her the book or not.  And Star and her family had no idea that they were not really related to the Butterfly and besides, Eclipsa wilingly ran off with her monster husband, thus abandoning the throne and her right to rule it, as well as the wand and book.  Star did not have to give her back the throne, but she did anyway. That alone is enough reason for Eclipsa to trust her. The fact that Eclipsa has no sense of respecting anyone's privacy and snuck into Star's head and not only stole the book, but had set it up for releasing Globgor despite claiming that she's no longer gonna release him, proves that Star was right in not trusting Eclipsa, as Eclipsa's word means nothing.
      Star really should have read Eclipsa's chapter (Glossaryck said she only skimmed it and read the spells), because Globgor's Mewman eating past and the circumstances of her leaving the kingdom were written in plain text. She wanted to elope with Globgor and bear his child so they could continue the royal line and "create lasting peace between the monsters and the Mewmans". That's why she was writing to "the future queens who inherit this book". Eclipsa wasn't planning on permanently leaving Mewni, so she wasn't giving up her throne, the wand, or the book. And it was Globgor who wanted her to the leave the kingdom which she had reservations about, but Globgor convinced her to "come with [him] and save both of [their] kingdoms".

      And Star has used the "All Seeing Eye", a spell specifically made to invade one's privacy, to spy on people when it's convenient for her.

      When did Glossaryck say that Star only skimmed it?  He certainly didn't say it in the magic Book of Spells. The book does not go into Globgor's Mewman eating past either. The only thing that discredits his dark past was his "assault" towards Eclipsa that Solaria witnessed, and the "plucker of limbs" nickname. And Eclipsa's chapter is not written in plain text, it's  written in cursive writing.  And Eclipsa mentioned nothing about returning to Mewni, and even if she had intended to, she would still be leaving the kingdom defenceless during a war and that would still be considered abandoning her people. And just because the Queen has a half monster baby, doesn't the Mewni people would be accepting of it. This is proven in Face the Music when Star revealed some secrets. So they wouldn't blindly follow a queen with a monster-baby, especially since they were at war with the monsters.

      We all know that Star is selfish herself, But she's only used the All Seeing Eye spell for herself once. Second time she tried to use it to find Glossaryck and the third time to find Eclipsa to bring her to the Spider-Bites.

      In the chapters, Glossaryck liked to pop up and give commentary and Star would as well occasionally. In Skywynne's chapter, Glossaryck said that Skywynne's chapter was the only one Star read all the way through and in Star's own chapter, she says that she skimmed the others. The only time Star made commentary on Eclipsa's chapter was when she said her spells were no big deal. When I said "plain text" I didn't mean the way it was written, I meant the details of Eclipsa's life and the circumstances of her leaving were in plain sight for everyone to see (at least for Star to see), sorry! In Eclipsa's chapter, she lists the pros and cons of various monsters she had dated. One of Globgor's cons was that he "eats people" (before he became a vegetarian).

      And yeah, you're right. Even if Eclipsa was planning to return to Mewni, she still abandoned her post to stay with a monster and her people would see that as a betrayal. But was Mewni really defenseless? Mina and the Solarian Super Soldiers were there, or do you think the queen's magic could've been of assistance?

      I remember Star using the All Seeing Eye in the beginning of season 3 to see how Marco was doing after her abrupt departure.

      But in Page Turner, Star said that she read Eclipsa's entire chapter, and in Butterfly Trap, Star again acted like Eclipsa'a chapter wasn't a big deal. So she had to have read more than just the spells in Eclipsa's chapter. And the part of Star's chapter where she said that she skimmed, that took place before being sent to Earth, which took place way before seeing Eclipsa's chapter. And not all of Eclipsa's chapter was written in plain text as the last part of her chapter was written in "low mewnian", including her decision to run away.

      Mina and the rest of the Solarian Super Soldiers are highly unstable. The kingdom would still need a queen to guide the people.

      I knew there was another time Star used that spell, but I forgot about it. But still, Star has never used the spell to scheme like Eclipsa did. Plus Star was technically under the Blood Moon Curse's influence when she used the All Seeing Eye to spy on Marco both times.

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    • If that were the case, then Star would've known that Eclipsa didn't want to bear Shastacan's children, meaning she didn't continue the royal line with him, which would've exposed the MHC's conspiracy and a LOT of problems would've been avoided. Now that I think about it, that's probably the real reason why Eclipsa's chapter had been locked and named the Forbidden Chapter by the Commission. And in Star's chapter, she wrote a little message in Low-Mewnian, so she was learning the language.

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    • RavenHeartQuest wrote:
      If that were the case, then Star would've known that Eclipsa didn't want to bear Shastacan's children, meaning she didn't continue the royal line with him, which would've exposed the MHC's conspiracy and a LOT of problems would've been avoided. Now that I think about it, that's probably the real reason why Eclipsa's chapter had been locked and named the Forbidden Chapter by the Commission. And in Star's chapter, she wrote a little message in Low-Mewnian, so she was learning the language.

      This is the same star who never realized what the decor meant in Surviving the Spider Bites. So Star could easily read the chapter and not put two-and-two together. Plus with the lack of knowledge of what happened to Eclipsa at the time, there's no telling what has happened after Eclipsa wrote that she was gonna runaway.

      None of what you just said would expose the MHC as the mystery of the royal line wouldn't connect to them.  It's Shastican who would be questioned, as he actually lives in the castle with the queen.

      Eclipsa's chapter is named "The Forbidden Chapter" because of her dark spells. Otherwise the Commission would've cut out anything that would've exposed them.

      Star learning Low-Mewnian is NOT the same as knowing Low-Mewnian. the fact that she only made one attempt at writing Low-Mewnian and had issues with it, showed that she never mastered it, and most likely wouldn't know how to read it as well.

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